In the Genesis episode of Chai & Apple Pie, Faiza and Liam discuss the foundations of what it takes to have a successful relationship.
In the Genesis episode of Chai & Apple Pie, Faiza and Liam discuss how they met in college and the initial impressions they had of each other. They navigate cultural differences and question their career choices. They break up but remain friends, and later reconnect through network marketing. The episode highlights the importance of stepping out of comfort zones and the intentionality and compatibility that have made their relationship successful. They also discuss taboo topics and the importance of open communication, including discussing finances, religion, and politics. They emphasize the need for respect in a relationship and how it is the key to a successful partnership.
Takeaways
- Building strong foundations is crucial for a successful relationship.
- Open communication about taboo topics such as finances, religion, and politics is important.
- Respect is a key factor in maintaining a healthy and successful relationship.
- Authentic communication is paramount in any relationship.
Chapters
00:00 The Genesis Episode
01:00 Meeting in College
02:26 First Impressions
03:25 Overcoming Cultural Differences
08:58 Questioning Career Choices
09:50 Joining a Book Club
14:19 Breaking Up and Staying Friends
19:31 Stepping Out of Comfort Zones
28:30 Reconnecting and Joining Network Marketing
41:21 Getting Back Together
45:08 Intentionality and Compatibility
46:09 Building Strong Foundations
51:20 Taboo Topics and Open Communication
58:03 Respect and Authentic Communication
01:04:29 The Importance of Respect
Faiza & Liam (00:01.858)
Woo! Welcome to the first episode of Chai and Apple Pie. Yeah. So this is the Genesis episode. So on this episode, we're just going to kind of talk about where it all started for us. Oh boy. So I guess you can talk about where it started. You know what's so funny? I always tell my side of the story. Very funny.
But I always tell my side of the story. You know what, I'll let you take the mic for it. Well, it's pretty simple and straightforward. No, it's never simple and straightforward. That's why you asked me to tell my side of the story. Because I always like to hear from you. No, I want to hear. Sorry, our cats. Well, this is only one. Getting some zoomies. Yeah, it's only one of them right now. Okay, so let's get into some meat and potatoes. Yes, sir. Well, we met in college. Okay. And it's so funny, side note.
how so many people, adults in our lives, parents figures are starting to like date. Like we're finding that the old generation, older generation, not the old generation, but the older generation is funny enough they're starting to warm up to like online dating and stuff. But we have a very more traditional yet modern story. We met in college. And for me, I remember at the time I was certainly not looking.
to get into anything serious. However, you know, you didn't just hear you come. Yep. No, no, no. So yeah, I went in, I had, if you want my side of the story, my context, well, I had a girlfriend, my first girlfriend, we broke up, whatever, blah, blah. Went into college, just wanted to meet girls, have fun, do the bachelor life thing. And then I remember I heard some woman.
like talking or laughing or giggling or something. And it was just so like radiant, you know? Like I was like, oh my God, like she sounds like blast. And then I was walking one day. So we used to have like this cafeteria, well, it was called the pit. And it was like basically like right outside the cafeteria area of the campus. Outside of the library. Yeah, the library. Yeah, not the, there was no cafeteria in college.
Faiza & Liam (02:26.734)
There is, there is. We just met a minute ago. Okay, yeah. No, so I was outside the library, the pit, and it was like under the staircase. And I remember I was walking, and for some reason, maybe I heard her, and I was like, I think that's the girl. And then I looked over, and then I saw somebody that I had a class with talking to what seemingly was the girl. So I made a beeline to it. And then I, you know, introduced, like I said, hey, what's going on to the person I did know.
which was another girl that I had class with. And then through her, connected to the girl that I thought was her, you know? And I guess that turned out to be Fiza. So. Can I add mine? Yeah, go ahead. I think it would be nice if we like add each other's perspective. So, funny thing is, I don't know if you guys can see, but I wear glasses and I'm super, super blind. So, and at that, around the college days and stuff, like my parents, they all have all.
like got me some really like ugly glasses from Pakistan and stuff. So I used to not like to wear them. You know, I didn't, I didn't like wearing them at all. And I remember when I, so like, if I'm like not in a class, if I'm outside, then I will like take my glasses off and I'll walk blind. I mean, not blind, like I can still see, but just, you know, hardly, hardly. Yeah. Like, you know, you know, so, but still, like I just didn't, you know, I was self-conscious about it. So I remember.
That day I was waiting for my friend, my best friend, someone outside her class and I saw Liam. Like you know, waiting there I'm like, oh. Oh, you knew that was Liam, huh? Well, I mean, definitely didn't know, but I was like, who is this guy dressed up so nicely? Okay, so also Contacts in Contacts that day was a, I was selected to be a model for the showcase business.
attire and I was selected to do the business professional attire. So I remember like seeing Liam and I'm like who is this guy? I didn't see him in like you know auditioning or anything like because he okay so one thing about Liam is that he like the first impression that he I you know that he made was that he really dressed up nice like it was like mature.
Faiza & Liam (04:51.41)
Not like childish, like not basketball shorts. I'm not saying it's childish, but it's just like, you know, it was just like not shorts, which he does wear all the time now. But still at that day, at that, you know, that day he, that day he was wearing, you know, khakis with like some spareys or some like, I don't know. And then like a polo. So I was just like, who is this guy? Like so dressed up at school, you know, like dressed up nicely.
an adult. Yeah. So I remember I saw him and I was just like, I couldn't get my eyes off of him. And I was like, I really need to see his face. Cause obviously, you know, I'm blind. So I literally, you know, um, went and found my glasses, put my glasses on, looked at him and I was like, Oh, okay. I've never seen this guy obviously. Cause you know, I don't like to wear my glasses around school. And then, um,
Just yeah, I saw him and I was just like, oh, I'm not gonna have any luck with the white guy. So I literally, I just put my glasses back. I'm like, Faisal, just stop thinking. Like it was, it's kinda like, that's like my, you know, I have a thing for the white guys and obviously you guys can see, but it was just like every time, like throughout my school and college, I've always like had that thought and I would be like, oh, that's just not gonna happen. Like just cut it out, like, you know? And...
So yeah, like that happened. I was like, oh, if I could just cut it out. And then later that day when he came at the pit, I was just like, oh my God, it's the same guy. He's coming. Oh my God, this chair is so squeaky. I'm so sorry. But yeah, I was like, oh my God, that's the same guy. He's coming. And I'm freaking out. And I was talking to a girl.
Her name is Noelka, but basically I was talking to her and Liam was, apparently Liam knew her. And there was, so he decided to, you know, slid in our conversation, but yeah, so go from here. And then I just started, I think you should take it from here because you're the one that always says like, all these questions you're asking really got me thinking. Yeah, well, I remember, so obviously I was talking to Noelka and then when she left,
Faiza & Liam (07:10.49)
one of our friends when she left and I was like okay um Liam and I just started talking and then we just had this like I don't know he was just asking very like particular questions that were just like very I was just so like not confused but I was just like in such awe I was like wow I never thought about that
I remember he asked me, like, what are you in college for? And I was like, oh, I'm majoring in civil engineering. And he like joked about it because he didn't know about civil engineering. And he was like, oh, civic engineering, like specifically for Honduras or something. And I was like, no, but yeah, we like talked and you were just like, I remember you just asked me, you were like, oh, why are you doing it? And I'm like, oh, because my uncle, like my uncle done it and like, you know, he's very successful at it and obviously like in my family, like my uncle.
He's a very successful man and I wanted to like he was like in you know my deal like you know he was the person I would look I look up to so I wanted to so that's why I was like I wanted to do civil engineering because I didn't see much successful occupation in my household so that's why I was like okay I want to go for civil engineering and I remember you asked me like are you happy like is that something you want to do?
And I'm like, hmm. And then that's where I, for the first time, I thought about it. And I was like, hmm, what is happy? Not like that, but I'm like, hmm, does that really make me happy? And I'm like, I don't think so. I'm just doing it because, you know, like, I don't know if that's something that I really, really want to do, but yeah. So we had a conversation for like good two, three hours and then.
Yeah, I remember. I think I realized I missed my class. Yeah. And so, yeah, I got her number in a very sleek way. So funny thing is Liam was at that point at that moment was like starting a book club because like Liam's a very how do I say very like intelligent, smart guy. I mean.
Faiza & Liam (09:21.554)
I like to read books, but it's nothing about smartness or intelligence. But I remember Liam, Liam wanted to like start a book club in school and it was called People in Pursuit. So more like self-help books and stuff. And I thought it was such a good idea. And he was like, Hey, I'm like, ask, basically he needs to like petition for it. Collect signatures. Collect signatures and stuff. And then.
He was asking like, hey, can I like, you know, write down your number and then I may call you for business or personal reasons. And then, yeah, that was his pickup line technically. But I didn't just put your number into my phone. Oh yeah, that was not his, oh yeah, I thought I mentioned that. He didn't, he walked around with a journal and that threw me off completely. I was like, oh my God, like, is he on?
Is he a nerd? Like walking around with a journal? I mean, hey, like journaling, it's pretty good. But just like, you know, I was a teen in college and I'm just like, wow, this guy like writes in his journal. Like he would walk like with his backpack and stuff. And I also remember, you know, like a Hurley backpack and with his journal in his hand.
You know, so something like I think any idea or any people he would like me he would write down their number in that book, like in his journal, and I still have it. He still has that but it's just so funny because it just reminds like it's very, like, you know, back in the day, like, let me write your number down on my little Yeah, because I mean, yeah, during that point, I was already kind of starting my I started dressing up nicer.
It's crazy because throughout high school, I never wanted to, I had never really had a big desire for money, for success, nothing. I really just wanted to. It's crazy because throughout high school, I thought college was the only route to have any success in life. I never wanted a tattoo, which obviously I have now. And yeah, I just, like I said, when I was going into college, I just wanted to kind of live that bachelor lifestyle. And yeah, I remember I got introduced to somebody and they kind of...
Faiza & Liam (11:41.686)
helped set me on a different trajectory. And so I started dressing up a little nicer, started being, you know, I got that journal so I could start writing stuff down and being more aware and just having record of the conversations and the people and the ideas and things like that I would have. And yeah, I was really bought into that idea. But yeah, so yeah, that's how we met. And then I completely, I guess we got so.
Involved in the talking and like of course like I'm an American white guy and like I have no I have no knowledge of like Muslim culture or Islam or anything like that. So I'm pretty sure Yeah, like okay, so the fun well, I mean not even that just like a Pakistani not Pakistani. Sorry. Sorry
Pakistani. But you know, uh, too much American pie. Yes. Apple pie. But okay, so what happened was like, so my, we were talking for so long and my dad, um, uh, my dad called and he said, Hey, I'm here. Like, you know, let's go. And I'm like, okay, I'm coming. And then it just rained. So Liam was like, Hey, like, let me drop you off. But hold on before we get there. I went to my class.
After I realized we were talking for however many hours and I realized like I completely missed it. Yes. So then I came back to where we're talking. And I called you. I did the same day follow up for those of you who know what that is. The same day follow up and you answered and like, Yeah, sure. I was surprised because I was like, you know, I've really never given it my number out. But it just maybe like once here and there but it was just like, you know, friends but
you just never really get any callbacks. I know. And usually as a guy, when you're calling a girl after a meeting, like, you know, you can assume like things went great, but you don't really know until that second conversation if they really did. Yeah. So I was quite surprised. I was like, wait, and you know, at that moment, I didn't have any friends and stuff. So like his number didn't pop up, but it's just like the way I was like, wait, the guy just really called me back. Like, that's crazy.
Faiza & Liam (13:49.622)
And then I really enjoyed our conversation because it was very intellectual and then it was very heart to heart. So I was like, okay, let's go. And we decided, so basically he was like, hey, my class ended. And I'm like, what, your class ended? Because I was like, I mean, I freaked out, but I was just like, what the hell? Classes are like an hour or something in college. And I'm like, this guy's like, oh yeah, my class ended, if you're still here, let's meet up. And I'm like, sure.
I decided to go meet with him again. Talk for like 20 minutes? Yeah, 10-20 minutes. My dad was like, hey, I'm here. Then it just rained. He was like, hey, let me drop you off to your dad's car. I'm like, oh my God, I don't think he knows. I'm like, uh, babe. I was like, Lea. Definitely didn't say that. I was already thinking in my head. But I was...
I was like, uh, Liam, like, you know, no, it's okay. Like I can walk to my dad's car. And I'm over here. Like, I guess you, I'm like, oh, that's, I'm like, that's odd. Like, this is so mixed signals. I'm like, she answered the call, but now she won't let me take her and drop her off. He was so persistent. I feel so persistent. And I was like, bro, I'm like, no, and I'm like straight up, like, literally like, no, I can like, no, it's fine. Like, I'll, I'll walk to my dad's car. It's okay. And then I remember he was just like.
let me drop you off and I was like, no, it's okay. Like, my dad's here. I'll just walk there and I'm like trying to explain. But yeah, obviously he was unaware of this, like, you know, Islamic Muslim, like Pakistani culture, household and stuff. But he, but yeah, he I went to my dad's car. And yeah, that rest just texted away. We texted away. Yeah, that's where we got into the modern. We met and started texting and we just
I remember all night, like we would text or we would like... FaceTime. We would FaceTime. And I remember you would like, so you would like to read books at night. And you would read these like self-help books. Like I'm not saying anything wrong about them. Like I just, you know, for me, like I hear them and it just kind of goes from one ear and it goes right out, right? I like to read like romance thrillers.
Faiza & Liam (16:13.118)
fantasies now fantasy dragons and stuff now but maybe we'll start talking about the books we're reading together there too do some book reviews oh boy but um but yeah i remember um he would he likes to like read these type of books like self-help books and was like hey like do you want to read with me and i'm like sure
I mean, I didn't know. I don't know. I think I got the book online like on phone where I could read So he would read a chapter and I would read the chapter. We would read out loud to each other Yeah, I remember that like at night like we would do Yeah, but this was probably a couple weeks in right or a couple days in a couple weeks. Yeah a couple weeks a day But the I remember the first day Let me tell you this let me tell you this okay, so Lina was such in this like self
I'm so sorry this chair is so squeaky. You want to switch it out real quick? I can't. Just go.
Faiza & Liam (17:15.021)
see if that's any better.
Faiza & Liam (17:20.802)
Sorry about that for the little intermission. Yes, better. So Liam was very like in this- Self-improvement. Yeah, self-improvement, personal development journey. And I remember he was, he went one night at Texas, I'm like, hey, what'd you do? Like, hey, what are you doing? And then he goes, oh, I was just watching a video and I'm like, oh my God.
let me ask the follow-up question, but I just hope he doesn't tell me what he's watching or like he like I just I just hope he's not watching anything more than 20 minutes because you know I have a feeling he's gonna send it my way so I was like hey so what are you watching my follow-up question and then he goes oh I'm watching this video you want to watch with me and I'm like sure
So yeah, he sent it to me and I just like opened it, right? Let me tell you. This thing was like three hours, 30 minutes long. Part one, part one, it was a full seminar of Bob Proctor and I was like, my God, I was praying for like 20 minutes or less. Like, look at this. So yeah, I watched with him the whole thing.
Again, was very probably helpful for him, but I just, it just kind of went in my one year, just one right now. But the sacrifice. It seems like we're getting to a point where we need to circle back on some of this stuff. Yeah. Cause you're getting to a point where you're obviously a lot more open than, or you're a lot more receptive than you maybe were back then. Not saying that. Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah. Like obviously you started reading in the last year. Yes. Like you've gotten out, you've started getting out of your comfort zone. We started working out.
more a lot more consistent like we've obviously had our little spurts of working out over our years together but for the last year and a half we've been going very like the most consistently we've ever been the longest time period that we've ever done you started reading now we're doing this podcast like obviously you were always very scared of you know putting yourself out there and I think so I think for me that change kind of happened was okay so in LA
Faiza & Liam (19:31.658)
Okay, so before we went to LA, like, Yeah, well, you're like skipping way ahead here. I mean, it's fine, fine. But we're just having a full conversation and I'm liking that. But basically, I'm trying to say is that before we went to LA, and because of my personality, Liam, like always was like, hey, your personality should be online. Like you should be, you know, you have such a beautiful personality. She's so bubbly and radiant and like everything. And obviously she's beautiful.
I'm like, and like everybody that would meet her, all of her friends, all of my, like all my friends, all of her friends, family members, like always ask her, like, are you a model? Like, are you a, like you an influencer? Like literally friends, family, everybody would ask her that. And obviously because of her culture, she was opposite of that, which I do appreciate. I think there's certainly a balance there. We can, we see how that culture can become quite toxic.
in some cases, right? So, yeah. Yeah, but I remember, it was just like, I don't know why, but definitely like, I didn't want I didn't want to like, I just couldn't like go put myself out there. I was very nervous. And I didn't know how to break down my comfort zone. My like my I had this wall up completely, right. And I was just like, I can't break this down.
I know. And for me, it would just like, I would get near it. Near it being a camera? Yes, I would be near it. And I remember I recorded a video and I had a full setup. Like Liam has everything, the setup and the cameras and the light boxes and stuff. And I remember I tried to record a video and I just kind of like, my whole body ventilated or something happened, like hyperventilated where I was just like.
It was just like me going out of my comfort zone and it was uncomfortable for me and that freaked me out because I've always been so sheltered, like, you know, my culture, like coming from a Pakistani household, like these kids are so sheltered, which obviously like with our kids, like I want to change that. Balance.
Faiza & Liam (21:55.29)
Yes, definitely there's going to be a balance, but I feel like in a Pakistani household, the kids are just more like, hey, parents are like, we'll do everything for you to go. Well, I'm not going to speak for everybody, but I'm talking about mostly, or mostly what I've seen, it's just like, hey, the parents will make sure that the kids go to school, make sure that the kids' needs are...
completed, but I feel like they do lack in like, social, not social, but could be not really social. Cause I feel like they do have the communities, like, you know, like the mosque, the muscet, the, you know, the, the Brown friends or like the college friends and stuff. Like, you know, you definitely had your little wolf gang pack. Yes. But I'm talking about like,
It's more like their parents are like, which I feel like helps in some situation where the kids are like, hey, like I have, like I have just like, you know, I can solely focus on education completely where they can go for higher education. Like, you know, but I have a feeling that sometimes like they don't get to see like how it works to just pay bills. Yeah.
Yeah, like, you know, you know, because they're just so sheltered at home that they're like, hey, we're gonna like live in our like, you know, the brown kids like, you know, the desi kids, what they do is that they stay, which hey, it's good. And some it's good. In some sense. Yes, it is good. But I feel like in a worldly, especially in American culture, it's like, you definitely need to like, kind of step out where you need to see more independent.
Yes, definitely. Yeah, because I remember like how it's just it's really difficult. Like, you know, like my sisters and stuff and most of the brown kids I've seen, like, you know, that I'm friends with and stuff, but they're just like, they're going for like education, like, or even higher education and stuff like that. But they're just so sheltered at home. They don't know like what goes in to pay rent or like, you know, house payment or.
Faiza & Liam (24:15.182)
freaking bills or like anything goes wrong in the house and stuff. And I'm like, I'm not thinking that they, I'm not saying that they should know all those things, but I feel like they should, should learn or should start taking care of those, um, you know, those little chores or little things, responsibilities. There you go. That's the word I'm looking for. Uh, for, but yeah, just so like when they are on their own, they need to like, yeah, but you know, that's
That's, well, that's the difference in the culture is like for like they're not technically supposed to be alone. Right? Yeah, you're right. Cause like, okay, so in like, which I feel like it goes both ways, but in Pakistan they had this thing where they are like, hey, usually what it is that you live in a joint family, but there are some people that they do go move out and then they do go live in their own like house.
I mean, when I say alone, I mean, like by yourself, like usually you're not moving out of your own house until you're married. Like if you, yeah, correct. So if you have your own, if you're, if you have your own, um, your family and stuff, you're not married, uh, you're not moving out unless the only, the only thing I could say is like, if you have college, yeah, you know, if you have college and stuff, but I mean, that's just, you know, just a conversation. But what do you guys think? Like, you know, I have a feeling. I personally think.
that, you know, these kids... Well, I think I would say we should get back to our relationship. I mean, yeah, but we're just talking about like the dynamics. Like, yeah, well, yeah, just give me some context about... From like the American side to like the Pakistani side. Yeah, versus me. So my context is, OK, so when I went to college, I was going to live this bachelor lifestyle because my dad had told me, like, hey, they had...
basically my dad and his wife at the time, they were gonna be moving, they're gonna be keeping the house that we were living at the moment, and they're gonna basically have me paying rent. So they're like, okay, cool, we're leaving, have fun, here's the bills, have fun. So they just kind of left. So you got hit with like, you know, and I think even before like the parenting, that your dad and your mom, you know, done it for you was like, they kind of like were.
Faiza & Liam (26:36.15)
they started introducing a little bit of responsibilities at the age of 16, 16. And then you started your first job and stuff, right? Yeah, and then in Brown household, they're like, you're not working. Like even my sister, it's so funny, she is what, 16? Yeah. Or 17, I'm not sure, but basically she's 16 and my parents are like, oh, she's too young to drive. And I'm like, you know that at 16 year olds.
over here in Florida specifically. They are. That's across the nation. The what? That's across the nation. Across the nation what? Yes, everybody can drive a 16 across the country. I mean, yes, but I'm talking about like, I'm thinking back like, like you know how my family lived in New York and stuff. Like car is not like. Oh yeah, it's not a big necessity. Yeah, it's not a necessity. But I'm talking about like in general, but in. So yeah, I got hit with all the responsibilities, you know, relatively young and not in a negative way. Like obviously there's some people that.
get hit with responsibilities in a very negative way. Mine was in a very, I'd say positive way. Like my dad was, they were leaving, they were like, they wanted to keep the house. They wanted, they just left me with the bills. They just said, you know, cover the mortgage, cover the bills, like whatever. So yeah, pretty much, you know, 17, going on 18, just got hit with that responsibility. I was already like working and making pretty decent money for my age, I would say, but yeah. So that's kind of the difference obviously in the cultures. And so we...
Well, how did we first start dating? So we talked for what? Like two weeks and everybody, all of her friends, because we're pretty much, yeah, everybody was just, I mean, I know on your friend's side, they're like, ooh, are you guys like... Yeah, they were like, I think everybody was like rooting for us. And I mean, we all already knew like this was gonna happen. There was certainly, there was obviously a special bond, spark, kindle. Yes. So we...
He decided, we basically, he decided to, we went on a date, like a little small date. He came to City Walk, our first date, and then we just walked around. We, you know, so that was our first date, and obviously we just got to know a little bit more, and he found out that I like olives on my pizza. And so, yeah, we had a great time, but basically from there we were just like.
Faiza & Liam (28:59.026)
Okay, so what are we going to do from here? Like, you know, our... Because we all, we knew that there was a special bond between us and we knew that there needs to like something, like, you know, we need to like make this a relationship or... You know, we were just such a conflict because, you know, he came from a Christian household, from a Pakistani Muslim household, and obviously like he knew like my family would just be really not happy with it.
And I remember we, um, he, so we basically, we thought about it and I'm like, you know what, let's give it a try. And so we dated for like four days. We just like met in college and that's really for what me met in college. Cause I used to go to college. You met in college. Well, I'm talking about like, we just like met in college. I probably for those two days, no, four days that we dated. Oh, yeah. Like two days. Yeah. So.
But yeah, no, so we dated for like four days and then I was at such conflict with myself because obviously I knew Fiza was a really freaking awesome girl, like this is not, you know, one of those fun girls per se. Like. There shouldn't be any fun girls, okay? Everybody should be. Well, that's what some women and girls want. That's what they want. But I could tell that wasn't you, obviously. And so, yeah, I was like very conflicted. Like, you know, I don't wanna, like if there's no.
If there's no like into the tunnel of this, like what's the reason? And I feel like maybe we kind of have that both mindset, like, okay, well, if we are gonna invest in this, like let's make sure that the outcome, like we have an alignment with our outcomes, right? So yeah, I just like kind of talked to some of my people, some of my friends in college and just got some feedback from different people and obviously like the cultural difference. And like, I wasn't like a really big Christian, like my dad is not really talked much about religion my entire life. My mom...
has talked about more spirituality than anything. So it's not like I was just Bible thumping, going to church every Sunday, Sunday school. I would go with my mom to a more spiritual church that was still, I would say, some degree of Christian. They still talked about Jesus and everything. But the point is, I didn't really have a big religious grip on me and just my life in general. So that wasn't a really big deal, but obviously I didn't want...
Faiza & Liam (31:25.266)
as I was learning more about Faisal's culture and just learning about Islam in general, I kind of realized, hmm, this is probably not going to work for her and always her family. So I just decided that I'm obviously not at a point where I'm going to be converting or anything like that. We just met. Well, obviously, and I think you told me the perspective and stuff that you had of Islam was like...
was very... how do I say this? Was not like, was not correct but it was very...
How do I say it? Say it. What's the word? I don't know. What is it? Americanized? I don't know. Yeah, I would say. Yeah, there you go. I mean, I definitely watched some. I used to watch some videos from like some political figureheads. But they were very right wing and then they were just like very... That would probably not portray it in its purity. Yes. So, which is really odd because as we get deeper into this podcast...
There's going to be some funny stories and realizations that Fiza comes to about her own culture and in political alignment. So yeah, I just, I was like, Hey, look, I don't want to cause any conflict between you and your family. Like we've only been dating for four days. So like, let's just kind of break it off and just be friends. And, um, and I was like, I was rooting for us. This guy. Yeah. So you left me high and dry.
Yes, so that was well, so here's what happened. She worked at Universal and she had invited me to go to Universal with her the next day. And I had this moral conflict of like. I either have to break up with her now so that I feel like morally responsible and I don't take advantage of her or I go have a great day with her at Universal for free and then break her heart afterwards.
Faiza & Liam (33:22.722)
So I was like, there's like no winning in this situation. Like this is weird. So like, I didn't want to, I want it to be morally aligned and just not take advantage of her, even though we were young, but I just, you know, if she thinks for the, what she thought I was a, you know, asshole for, for breaking up before we went to Universal, I can only imagine what would have happened if we had in a fricking great time at Universal. And then you'd be like, and by the way.
this is probably not gonna work out. So that was what I was battling within myself. So yeah, the night before we were scheduled to go to Universal, I just said, Hey, you know, I don't want to I don't want to, you know, I don't want to hurt you and your family and all this. So broke it off. She still got upset. I think did you end up going to Universal or you just said screw that. I mean, it's my workplace. Oh, yeah, no, I didn't. But basically, we just and from there, I feel like we just still we couldn't
We just like we still talked. I would say. We were magnets. We couldn't stop talking to each other. He said I came back. I was like, no, no. You're the one who kept talking to me. But we still talked. And obviously, we created such a great bond with each other that we were just like, I mean, obviously, we just talked for four days. It was just like, well, we're not talked. Two and a half weeks, basically. I mean, not even that. But as you can tell, like.
just like marked us as a relationship for like four days but we just like you know we were it was in I mean we're adults now it's not like oh you know like time
start date, official. I don't care about that. But basically, we were just talking for two weeks from there, and obviously, four days of those four days. Official dating. Of official dating, and just saying, oh, we're together kind of thing. They can get a new one. Yeah, so basically, before that, we were just, so I was like, you know what? I do value him as a really good friend.
Faiza & Liam (35:20.458)
And I shouldn't lose him over just of us making that decision to be, you know, with each other for four days. I mean, it's just four days. Like it's not that significant. So I was like, okay, sure. Like I'll still like, you know, I'm not going to be that snotty little thing. We're just going to be like, Oh no, we can't do this. You know? So we, we became, we were really good. I think we just kind of like became really good friends and babe, this is a long story. Yeah. That's, that's why we're doing this.
And then Liam decided to, then we were started talking up again, and then he started to do network marketing. He joined network marketing. Well, I was actually funny enough. So the person I introduced to got me into network marketing, which is when I started doing the dressing nicely, the book and everything, the personal development, the gym, the Bob Proctor, the Kim Rones, the Les Browns, right? Yeah.
And then at that time I got pulled, I guess the team that I was on like migrated to a different company. So that's how I got pulled. And then obviously the whole network marketing stuff. So yeah, I basically demanded, invited her to come like, you know, these network marketing they're just like, they're like, you, you really got to show up. It's one of the best, like, you know, it's going to be a best thing since sliced bread.
Yes, it's the big event. You've got to come. You've got to see the, you know, this, we have something big planning. We didn't never disclose that. We have to make something coming up. We love like, you know, just come by. So they invited like 20, 25 people. And I mean, it was a hit event, but just, I'm just saying that, and I'm also a person who can't say no. So I like joined. So like, sure. Well, we picked you up. Yeah. Me and my best friend. So a little background, like I think.
This is a real like side story. Obviously I think college, you know, I think it's not for everybody. I went for a year and then I don't know why people say drop out, like I just never went back. I don't know why they say drop out. Like I just stopped going. Because you dropped, you dropped your. But no, like obviously, you know, as I'm getting older, like my, my opinion on college, I would say obviously like it's not for everybody. Don't feel like you have to be forced into it. Like for me, I know like,
Faiza & Liam (37:39.602)
I went for a year for my general studies. And then I do remember like I was, I did get pretty excited about, you know, the recommendations I kind of had as career wise. Like I was recommended to become a lawyer, so I can judge. And then, yeah, I just, I didn't want to go through all that schooling. I feel like you could be, like, I mean, if you did want that route, like I think you could be a really good judge. Yeah, but I just, like, I guess at that time, like I didn't really want to take on all that schoolwork because I don't feel like that's really my learning style.
I feel like my learning style is more of like doing, learning, doing, learning, like learning by execution, like learning by doing. And obviously in school, like you are doing like homework and stuff, but it's not like real world application. And a lot of the times, at least in not in my experience, so like
I totally, I went off on the side skirt, but yeah, I forgot what I was gonna say. So yeah, college, we met in college. Oh, that's what I was gonna say. Yeah, so like as much as like I'm not a big proponent, I'm not against it at all, but like the two best things that I got from college was obviously my best friend Cass and my wife Fiza now. So yeah, it's like an interesting dynamic of like, obviously I think college, the most important thing is like the people that you meet.
And if you're there for the education, obviously, that's a big piece of it. But for me, it was more so like the connections. And honestly, I can even say like the guy that I connected with, who kind of put me down this network marketing path, like I said, in high school, like I just thought college was only success. I just wanted to go basically work with my dad, you know, make good money, live happily ever after. I had no like, I had no sense of like success, money, freedom, anything like that. I didn't really understand any of that. So.
just that introduction in college, even though it was like, obviously network marketing, you know, it's like a, can be a controversial thing, but it certainly got me on the right, got me down a path that I wasn't going down. So I'm kind of grateful for that. I'm grateful for Cass, I'm grateful for you. So that leads us to the point where, okay, so me and Cass are like putting together this event for the network marketing and we pick you up because we're like, yeah, you gotta come, which is funny because how did you pull that off? I just- Because-
Faiza & Liam (39:50.042)
I couldn't drop you off at your dad's earlier, but now we're picking you up and you're going to my house and like all this stuff. I don't know. I think I just said that I had like, because it was just like an hour or two or something. So I just said that I have like an after school thing, like college thing. But basically it was like an hour or two. It was basically was. Yeah. And it was just like basically an event. And then at the end of your bit.
I feel like I need to try it. It was an event and then after the event they decided to
basically show the you know where you have to buy and I'm like sure. I remember they were like oh it's $5.99 and I thought $5.99. I was like what's the big deal about this? But yeah I was like sure and I joined. She wanted to apparently wanted to be. I just can't I can't say no. I feel like over the years being with you like you have instilled in you some like confidence to like you know. Put your foot down. Yes to put my foot down to be able to say no to be able to like you know.
Like, I mean, I just, it's just, I hate to hurt anybody's feelings. So I was just like, now I don't get it. Care. I really don't. A little less, a little less. So definitely like he, so I just couldn't say no. And I'm like, sure. I'll give it a try. And then so from there. Is so yeah, we, we talked for two weeks, we dated for four, and then we were kind of offered to another two weeks. And then that event was a significant, the significance. Yeah.
But I think a couple more events because they were like, oh, come buy more. No, it was not that same event. Yeah, it was. It was not that same. It was. Buddy, you want to go back? It was definitely not. All right. Fine. No, it was the one with Kenny. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, it was definitely like that's right. A couple more. That was the time that I introduced you to my dad as my. Oh, yeah. So funny. Yeah, because then the company were in, they used to have these seven day child packs, they would encourage us like, give them out. Yes. So basically like Liam would like
Faiza & Liam (41:51.338)
What was it? His, I remember, okay, so the first time I met his dad, he told me, he was like, Oh dad, meet my four day trial or something. The girlfriend I had for four days. Yes. Um, but yeah, I mean, that was a nice experience, but I'm just happy that, uh, you know, one and done at least, you know, Not for me, but yeah. For me. Yeah. But I mean, just like, at least we.
just yeah okay but okay we got to get to the good part like when we got back together so obviously recruited her into network marketing she was not a great rep she didn't do anything just bought in got me promoted that I want to talk about the things like you know I mean this topic is about relationships and stuff and I know we're talking about like our life and stuff back then but I feel like we should kind of like move forward and talk about
I'm talking about when we started getting back, like the whole moment when we got back together. No, but I kind of want to talk about the old you versus the new you. What does that mean? The old me versus the new me. What does that... okay, let's do it. You want to talk about our takeaways? Okay, so if we want to fast forward now, we've been together almost 8 years. Crazy. Yeah. Come on, this guy. Married... well, not married, but we've been together almost 8 years now. And yeah, some takeaways like...
Yeah, just so weird. We've been together for eight years and obviously like we have done our Nikkah and stuff which is the Pakistani, not Pakistani, it's a Muslim, like you know, Islamically we got married and stuff but the only thing is we haven't done our American wedding so we, you know, that's something that we need. I mean we have filed our and it's funny because
We wanted to do our legal with our American wedding and I think it's just been taking so long so we were just like, you know, let's just go get legally married. Yes. So we were just like, let's go get legally married. So we just got legally married last year or something. 2023, yeah. Yeah. So we were planning to do our American wedding and I don't know if you guys have any thoughts about this, but here's my epiphany. Epiphany.
Faiza & Liam (44:09.602)
the situation I have is just that, you know, I, I don't think, oh, let's talk about this. You know, like, you know, should a couple spend 10s and 20s and 30s of thousands. Let's say that for next episode. I think for this episode, let's talk about what we talked about last time. So we had to reshoot this, by the way. Oh, God. But no, like some of our takeaways. So obviously in the beginning of our relationship, I think the one thing,
that's been very, that's made our relationship very successful because obviously with like, when people are Asian in relationships, like especially in the American culture, like you always hear like these couples that like are breaking up and get back, breaking up and get back and they're like always in these like very top, maybe toxic relationships. Like, and we obviously see that around us as well. Yeah, but I have a feeling that it has to be with the person itself, but I feel like we really, we really got lucky with each other. I know, but I think there's a reason for that. And I think if...
it was very clear from the start, like, I was very intentional about what I was looking for. Like, obviously, even though I wasn't looking for that, originally, I knew that was probably the type of woman and girl that you were. And like, I was never, I didn't change myself to appeal to any woman at all or any girl. Like, I was just me. So like, I remember, like, obviously, when Faiza asked me, like, what I was watching on the first day, like, I didn't change it. I'm like, here's my three hour video that I'm watching.
somebody who would be supportive of that or in alignment with that, you know? Cause if I would have sent that and then like Faisal was like, oh, you're a nerd or this is like a joke or like anything like that, like, you know, cause at that age that's, you know, you can have that kind of perception about certain things. So, cause in like even dating beforehand, like I remember I basically had a girl over and like, I was just listening to that. I was listening to that too. And the girl was probably like, I'm out, I'm out. Yeah. I don't think we ever talked after that.
But no, there was just so like, yeah, I think, like, when it comes to building strong, like, it, the foundations of a relationship are super important of the just like, so the big things I think have made allowed us to be successful to this point. And like, we're still young, we're like 2627. We've been together eight years since we were like 1819 years old, we obviously have a lifetime ahead of us. And you know, like we can't tell the future. But I would say I'm pretty proud of like the fact that we've been together for this long.
Faiza & Liam (46:38.442)
in this type, you know, considering where we are in society, like it's not very often you hear about people being together, you know, at such a young age and sticking through it. So I mean, there's definitely are some, but the only thing is, okay, so we know them because we are them. But I'm just saying that the thing is the foundations, the foundations, but yeah, but the thing is when I first met you, like, okay, so what were the things that you found in me?
that you were like, hey, she is like the woman that I want to be with. Well, like you said before, like that you didn't see any red flags in me and I didn't see any red flags in you. And so I think they're just so OK, so let me let me tell you. So let me say this. So when we were when I first met you and stuff and obviously like his like, you know, his little things like him writing my number down in his journal.
very nerdy, but cute. And then him like starting a book club. Well, I never started the book club. You never started it, but just the idea to do it, like, you know, the self-help books are very nice. Like, you know, just like a very mature person, like, you know, somebody who wants to has aspirations, has aspirations, who wants to like, you know, who wants to be something just not like because like, you know, remember I said, like, I wanted to do civil engineering because my uncle was a very successful civil engineer.
So I was like, hey, when I saw him, it was just like, he's like, hey, I don't know. The counselors told me that I am a, I can, my personality and stuff could be good as a lawyer or a judge and stuff. But for me right now, I wanna better myself as a human being or for my own sake. Like, you know, he wants to learn himself and I think that was very attractive.
Where I saw him like, you know, he wants to like read books or watch three like who I've just very rarely I would see Yeah, so every I would to see him like, you know who wants to spend time and Watch three and a half hour videos. Just like you know, I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't doing what I had set out to do
Faiza & Liam (48:58.686)
Which was having that bachelor lifestyle like yeah, correct But you were I mean, I think I feel like everybody is like that cuz like okay So I come up I come from a very strict Pakistani about household and stuff, right? Islamic like I'm sorry Muslim household and So I've never went to any parties and stuff and obviously like all these people have this, you know this thing in them that they're like hey like
I want to go try it out. I wonder what it's like. We grew up seeing Hollywood movies and stuff, and we would see little parties and little things. And I feel like all these, you have that little inside of you, you're like, hey, I wanna go try this out. I wanna do this. And hey, I have went out and stuff. And let me tell you, it's just not my scene at all. I've realized why my parents have shielded me from it. And I feel like...
I feel like I needed to see, because I think it was a rebellious side of me where I was like, I needed to see for me to, for me to like be like, hey, this is not for me, you know? And that's the reason my parents have always shielded me and told me like, this is wrong, this is haram, and this is bad, you know? So, but yeah, that's my thing. But basically to see him like,
better himself that was a very like a green flag for me. Yeah. And I didn't see any like red flags or anything like that. So that's why I was like, okay, he's look up and I have to be honest all my life. Like what of 19 year at the age of 19 year old. I've just never seen a man who would just like put himself in that position to read books or watch videos for hours just to like, you know, for him for his, you know, for himself. So that's why I was like, oh, it's very attractive.
So, yeah, and like we started our, I feel like we started our entire relationship on very, very strong foundations. So even like you said, like our first conversation, like we were talking about kind of like longer term goals, like your career, we were even talking about the religion because obviously you're like educating me about Islam and stuff like that. And so I feel like, yeah, we just talked about those very taboo topics, like finances, religion, politics, like we've always been very...
Faiza & Liam (51:20.054)
Like we've always, I would say that's probably the biggest key of success for our relationship up to this point. For me, it's been the communication and for what would you say it's been for you? I know. Um, definitely the biggest takeaway, biggest foundation is to respect. Yeah. Respect. Okay. So for me, I feel like I know that, okay, so Liam's very open communication in our relationship. Like I remember, oh my God, we're going to go whole deep dive into this, but
Basically, in the start of our relationship, Liam, let's say if anything goes wrong, Liam would like, would say something about it because he's very like open and very calm and cool collected guy. Right? Cool is a cucumber. And I'm more of like a fiery Pakistani girl. Like, yeah, I'm a firecracker. Like if anything, I'm like, I'm like, about to go now. Like, but I'm just like, you know, I'm like, hey, don't talk to me. Like, she shuts down. She doesn't blow up. She shuts down.
like you know I would bottle it up and I would shut down so I remember Liam came and told me was like um there was like we like had an argument and stuff and I remember I noticed that I would shut down and it was just kind of like a clock not a clockwork but it was kind of like a thing that I was doing it without even knowing it you know or even though I don't want to do it like I would be like I would shut down because it would just be like hey he did this bad like he did this thing
I have to shut down like, you know, I have to shut down like this is bad, right? But even though my body's like, Faisal, like you need to talk about it. And I'm like, no, like, no, how the hell like, how, no, it was bad. So, um, it just kind of like little conversation and I'm, I'm just saying like little arguments, it could be like something really stupid, but, uh, speaking of that, it happened recently, huh?
Okay, whatever, Ling. Don't talk to me about it. We just played a game around, a game of Shanghai and he decided to buy the card and that would have changed my hand. So, yeah, I hated him that day, that night. And, but yeah, so basically the end of the day. Respect communication. And speaking about. Let me tell you that, but basically in our relationship, like I remember I used to shut down and stuff, right? And I just didn't know how. It's gotten better.
Faiza & Liam (53:42.57)
Yes, but I didn't know how to fix that. Like I didn't know, even though, even though my heart would say like this, Liza, like, come on, like, you know, you need to talk about this. And I'm just like, no, he needs to. And I'm not, I'm gonna bottle this up. And I remember, so I didn't know how to fix him. And I met the great Elena Cardone at an event. And I remember Liam,
She asked me like, hey, do you have any questions or anything like that? And I was like, actually I do. Because I really looked up, I really looked up Grant Cardone and Alina Cardone's relationship. Yeah, because at that time I was making more money, I was in sales, so we were going to some of them. So I really looked up to them as their relationship. Yeah, they have a really good relationship too. Yeah, because Alina Cardone is like this strong woman who holds the port down, and then Grant Cardone is like the man who like.
protects and provides family. So I remember, I mean, to be honest, Elena Cardone can do a great protection anyway. But I'm just saying that I really looked up to her, I still look up to her, but I remember we went to an event and I asked her a question. I was like, hey, so I have these little arguments that I would have with Liam and then I would just shut down. I wouldn't be like, hey, you know.
Like I'm not gonna talk about it. It could just be something really small, like not putting the dishes in dishwasher to like something just really stupid and small but- Not putting your toothpaste cap on the toothpaste? Oh, whatever. That was my little pet peeve. But I remember I asked her that, I'm like, so I get this like something goes wrong and then I just go into like a, I go in this, what is it? Shutdown mode, right?
I don't want to talk about it. I just want him to leave me alone. And she told me, she's like, hey, you need to understand, you guys are in a relationship, like, you know, you guys both are in this relationship, right? So you need to talk about it. You need to put your big girl panties on and be like, hey, this is my relationship and I'm not going to let this small thing, like you got to understand that argument is against, not you against him. It's the argument is you against.
Faiza & Liam (56:03.798)
the argument against us, right? So yeah, I just thought about that. That's cool. But I'm just saying like that perspective kind of clicked in my mind and I was like, okay, like, you know, I need to talk to him about it because I need to start talking to him about it even though how uncomfortable it is. And I remember over the time definitely like, you know,
I still leave my moments. You know, sometimes like an argument happens. I'm like, OK, I am leave me alone for literally just give me like 30 minutes because he's a very he's like a person who would come to you and be like, hey, what's wrong? Is everything OK?
Can we talk about this? I'm like, I don't want to talk about it. Like, you know, can you just please leave me alone? I really want to gather my thoughts because he's a cool as a coupon coupon. I like a red chili pepper. Please do not come near me. Yeah, I'm more I'm just obviously like more solution oriented. Like anytime there's a conflict, I'm always like, okay, I'm able to mentally like, put that like move beyond that and be like, okay, that happened. But yeah, now it's a new time. Let's figure it out. Yeah.
And definitely like I have learned that, you know, over our relationship. And I just realized like that problem, it's not me against him. And it's never that, cause we're in a relationship together. Like we are together and we're as like one unit, right? So that it's that problem against us, you know, so I need to talk to him about it. Like, even though like, and every there's like.
you know, there is just the best way to talk about anything in a relationship. Yeah, because I think that's what I'm saying. Like, I think one of the biggest success factors of our relationship thus far, is the fact that yeah, we've just been really since the beginning. And I've obviously haven't really, I wasn't trying to impress you to be with me, right? And I feel like there's definitely a lot of guys that will try to conceal their true selves or like, they'll, they'll change themselves to try and impress.
Faiza & Liam (58:03.21)
a good looking woman, you know, that they're trying to go out with or whatever, right? So they just the it's all about the intentions, right? And the X, and I don't want to call it expectations. I don't think, you know, I think it's more about the intentions, like you're setting the proper intentions. And so I feel like just for us, you know, me leading the relationship in terms of the communication and just you being able and being going along with it and like participating in like not shutting it down yourself. Yeah, and just talking about
all the quote unquote taboo things like, obviously, money is a big thing. Like if you look at, I guess the reports, I think the stats say like financials are like one of the biggest reasons that people get divorced, right? And like, there's, there's like couples who don't even like talk about their finances together, you know? And so it's like, while we're married, we don't even like, we don't share bank accounts, but we're like very
We still have our own bank accounts. Like we still. Yeah, and I, to be honest, we're so open with everything. Like we are very open. Like he knows how much I have. He, I know how much he has like savings and stuff. Like we really, like there is nothing. Like we're on the same page. Like personally, like in a relationship, like in a relationship, when you're in a relationship and you are in this, like, you know, this marriage, you know, we. But I mean, even, even young, like obviously, cause like, you're not always gonna go right into that.
like you're not gonna start dating in like two weeks into the relationship. Like, oh yeah, let's share our finances. Like it's obviously takes time, but like I would say like typically within the first year, and depending on the context of the relationship as well. Right, so I'd say usually within the first year, if you're like getting engaged or like moving in or getting married or anything like that, like as things start to progress more seriously, like that's the stuff that you wanna be talking about. To be honest, What? I don't agree with that. Oh yeah?
No, I personally think that you should talk about it even before getting engaged and stuff because I feel like I mean If there's any sign that the relationship is like progressing like seriously, I mean to be honest. Okay personally, I would say finances are like not a Finances are not a big Not finances making money like I feel like okay if somebody has like debt and stuff or somebody has
Faiza & Liam (01:00:19.986)
I feel like you can always make it back. You know, like if you have debt, if you have, like you know, you need money and stuff, you can always make it back and stuff. So I remember, I remember, so I personally think that that's something should, like when you are talking to that person, when you are dating that person, you need to know, understand their spending habits, their...
you want to know kind of out like their debts, you want to know how much they earn, like how much. So yeah, but not on the first date. First date, as I'm saying a couple. Yeah, but definitely. I would definitely think like, as it's progressing. Yeah, of course, as you're progressing. And I'm speaking on this from an American culture standpoint, which is what I'm saying, like moving in, getting engaged, dating, like as the relationship is just progressing. But yeah, and then
I said, talk about those taboo topics and just being on the same page about things like the politics, the religion, the money, the finances, the principles, the moral. So there was just a lot of alignment from the beginning because I had that intention. And then, of course, being so big on communication, which is probably, I would say just in general, that's my biggest, that's my number one trait that I look for in any relationship, whether it's like
obviously personal relationship and love with Fiza or a business relationship or just any friendship, like anything like, I feel like communication is probably the most paramount thing and like authentic, like authentic communication. Cause it's one thing for somebody to give you, feed you a whole bunch of bull crap, right? But it's like, if they're being authentic in their communication, it's like the biggest thing. So yeah, that's what I feel like has been a strong foundation for me. Well, for me is definitely respect, you know?
I feel like in a relationship when you are with your person, you create that respect. I have that respect for him. I have the respect for his work. I have the, with respect, I have the trust. So definitely over the years, I have this...
Faiza & Liam (01:02:32.49)
What were my thoughts in my last one? But definitely like, um, I, um, one of my takeaways were talking about, like, I never done anything to really disrespect you. Yes. Oh yes. Yes. So in a relationship, like, you know, Liam has never done anything to disrespect me or has ever like spoken such in a, like, you know, in a degrading way, degrading way, or just like, even like with a high, loud voice or anything like that. Right.
volume but he um but i feel like you know he has always respected me so i um i always you know what is it uh i always respect him back you know so that's like i feel like when you have that relationship like we never curse at each other like i would like to like in a conversation yes but like we would we don't call each other like yes or you're a yes because i feel like that's
That is so toxic because if you have that, like he is my man and I would never like if I would never speak to my parents like that I would never speak to my husband like that you know the same thing with like I don't know about my kids because I can call them shits little shit. Not to their face. My kids are like up there right there. My JC he's sleeping but I'm doing my which is my cat by the way. Yes, we have we have cats that are very human named.
Jason Miles. Yes. But basically, you know, I have that, I feel like in a relationship, like you need to have respect for each other. You need to have, if you don't have that respect. And respect starts with communication. Correct. Because you know, there's so many times where like somebody will do something and they don't feel like they're disrespecting this other person, but because the other person wasn't aware, because the person didn't communicate, then it comes like this whole issue, right? Yeah.
And so then they're like not on the same page and then differences occur and things like that. Yeah, but definitely respect and then also like, you know, never try to, no, never try to, obviously like it's his, I mean, how do I say this? But, uh, he, I just, there's so much going in my head right now. I definitely need my coffee, but, um, I'm going to try some of that pre-workout we just got. Pre-workout? Yeah. Pre-workout? We're going to go play pickleball. Oh God.
Faiza & Liam (01:04:58.218)
But yes, definitely. Let's wrap it up. We gotta get going. But yeah, definitely my biggest takeaway is like, respect like in a relationship, like if you don't have that respect, if you don't respect that relationship or that person, like. What's the point? What's, sorry, that's not my hair. Yeah, so what's the point, you know? You like, the high. There's this cat, that's a wild cat and it just. Is that a Ridley? Yes. So. Can you guys hear that?
So there's wild cats and sometimes they meow really loudly and it's funny because you can hear it inside and our cats like a look at them but um yeah alright cool well there's the genesis of chai and apple pie this was the episode one and yeah we're gonna be talking about all things relationships well definitely a sneak peek over next episode we're gonna be talking about finances oh yeah just kind of like
What is the point of we're gonna be talking about everything? Okay, except for sex. That's one thing. We're not that public. I'm just talking about like our But like, yeah, politics, money, finances, principles, morals, like just how we want to raise family. New, new little Probably start doing some book reviews eventually.
We just want to talk about anything. Yeah, let's talk about anything that we talked about with an relationship so Awesome. Well, we hope you guys well, I wanted to give a little sneak peek before we go So the next episode we're gonna be talking about finances and like what I don't know if I just said that sorry I need I need a cup of coffee, but basically But yes the just kind of like what money
What we you know coming from two different backgrounds and what money meant to him what money and what money meant to me So kind of like talking about that. So we would love to have you guys back and Come join us and let us know. What are your thoughts and definitely let us know What are your takeaways in this really in your relationship? You know Um, as I said for us the big thing is communication and for me is respect
Faiza & Liam (01:07:15.851)
And yeah, so let us know. We'd love to hear your thoughts and let's... We'll see you next time. Yep.